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Okay. It's late at night, just got back from a (v. v. successfull) graduation dinner, I'm feeling fairly tipsy (but not too awfully much) and this morning I finally finished DH.

And about said Deathly Hallows, there is just one thing I really want to say.


TEDDY REMUS LUPIN? Oh man, thank god she made you die, I live IN FEAR of what she would have made you do if you hadn't. Died, that is. Oh man oh man oh man. You just don't fuction if you don't have Sirius around. I mean - TEDDY. TEDDY. REMUS LUPIN (which was bad already) NAMING HIS SON LIKE A TEDDY BEAR.

(Also, Teddy my dear, snog any girl you like. You've got your father's blood. You won't be doing that for long.)

And the epilogue. We do not talk about the epilogue.

(Was I the only one who thought that JKR made up a grand total of three names and kept using them again and again (and again and again and again)? I was pretty relieved to see that Ron had not named his own Fred. Poor, poor Albus Severus. He's going to need so much therapy once he grows up.)

Oh, and you know, I was mostly sold on the "Harry's got to die" theory - I was one of those who'd suspected it for quite a while. I would have bought it completely, if it wasn't for the fact that I kept fingering the pages left until the end. There were just too many of them.

And where the hell was Draco for most of the book? I was sincerely expecting to see a lot more of him.

For the record, there was only one character that was simply not allowed to die - and that was Neville. Oh, I've never loved the boy that much.
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on 2007-08-07 11:16 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ourmutualfiend.livejournal.com
I howled with laughter once I got over the epilogue. Because it is just that. bad.

Also, how telling was it that Remus reappeared to Harry with his three closest mates- Sirius, James and Lily- and not his, erm, wife? That was so telling to me and it isn't because she wouldn't have been there anyway, but it clearly suggests (along with Lupin wanting to adventure with H/R/H) that he really emotionally never progressed beyond his teen self. I guess it makes sense- those were arguably the best years of his life. But man, how fucking telling. Lana and I were all over this when we talked about the book. Sad.

on 2007-08-07 11:17 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] suzene.livejournal.com
I may very well kiss you. <3

on 2007-08-07 11:23 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ex-stateline124.livejournal.com
dude. my theory is, she just took a bunch of (mostly bad) fic and stitched it all together to make the last book. i just. *hands*

on 2007-08-07 11:49 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] penhaligonblue.livejournal.com
Well, to be perfectly honest, I really like the name Teddy - though I associate it with Theodore Laurence of Little Women (as played by Christian Bale in the 1994 film) rather than with anything furry and stuffed, which I think helps. But the entire concept of Remus Lupin reproducing is, in turns, comical and disturbing to me.

Speaking of Teddy taking after his father as concerns certain preferences, my friend recommended me this story to help me with my heteronormativity-induced frustration.

I was expecting a Jane Austen-style epilogue, with a very straightforward and somewhat distanced 'So-and-so went on to do x, y, and z'. What I got was a horrific procreation-fest.

Having been avoiding spoilers, you've probably not seen the bets being placed on the names of Harry's next children. Last I checked, Hedwig Dobby was a popular choice. Oh, and I'm guessing the reason Ron didn't name his son Fred is that George had already taken it for his kid, according to an interview with Jo. Good grief.

I was totally with Rowling through the entire 'I must die' sequence. God, that scene in the woods was breathtaking.

And Neville! He thoroughly rocked in this book. I can't wait to see Matt Lewis in the seventh film - he's the one actor whose performance usurped my original idea of the character.

on 2007-08-08 12:19 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] cerridwen666.livejournal.com
I got sucked into likely Teddy/James by [livejournal.com profile] copperbage.


I think for me it was Percy, Luna, and Neville that weren't allowed to die in this book or else I would have never forgiven JoK.

on 2007-08-08 12:41 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] itsahit.livejournal.com
FDSJFASDF OMFG. I LOVE YOU.

D: MORE THAN I ALREADY DO.

I HAVEN'T READ THE FULL POST BUT, UH, YOUR LITTLE RANT ABOUT TEDDY.

LOLOLOL. I MADE A JOKE ABOUT HOW LIKE SHE MADE TEDDY SNOG VICTORIERJ OR WHATEVER BEFORE ANY OF USE COULD PAIR HIM WITH LIKE UH, SOME OTHER KID. IDK.

AND THE EPILOUGE WAS BAD, WASN'T IT?
ASJFJKDFAF. :D I want to talk to you about the book, sounds like we'd have a blasty blast.

on 2007-08-08 12:44 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] itsahit.livejournal.com
Oh, and I'd like to point out that I tried picturing Tonks and Remus having sex.

Yeah, uh, I pretty much could not breathe from hysterical laughter. At first it made me sick, but now that I think about it it's kinda funny.

I wonder what Sirius would say about that. I seriously want someone to do something like that. :|
That's not angsty.
I don't care if it's a crackfic, I just want someone to do something like that.

Now I believe I am done. lawl.

on 2007-08-08 01:28 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] werewolf-lib.livejournal.com
I agree with all of the things you said and would like to add my dismay at the Weasleys seeding the wizarding gene pool. 'We are the Weasleys. You will be assimilated.'

As to Teddy having Remus' genes (and some that Sirius had, if you think about it!), may I shamelessly point you to my own take on that (http://community.livejournal.com/remusxsirius/2497199.html)?

on 2007-08-08 02:27 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] betta329.livejournal.com
I agree with you 100%. Did Ginny have no choice in the names? OMG there is going to have to be serious therapy. What the hell happened to everyone after the war? What happened to no more questions about anyone and no need for a prequel? Yeah, I was irritated to say the least.

I agree with Teddy Lupin's name, what the hell is up with naming people after dead people? OMG your dad, mom, mentor, and greasy haired teacher who lurved your mom all died... let's name everybody after the dead things. She said in the interview George named his son Fred, creepy.

I wish Harry would have died to get rid of Voldemort's soul.

I heart Neville.

I thought it was going to be like a newspaper thing or Harry writing his memoirs as a really really really old guy.

And here's one for you: Harry says why doesn't Teddy just move in he eats at the house four nights a week. Was he not the godfather? Who got the kid? Andromeda? Didn't he have/want visitation?

So many questions... so much disappointment and patheticness.

on 2007-08-08 02:28 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] hymenchan.livejournal.com
For the longest time I thought the name Victoire was a boys name.

Er...

>_>

on 2007-08-08 03:32 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] penhaligonblue.livejournal.com
I'll add my nonbiased (or somewhat less biased, when one considers my shipping habits) encouragement to read that fic!

After I read your parenthetical statement about Teddy's genes, I started trying to figure out how one supports the theory that Teddy is actually Remus and Sirius's love child. (Hey, it's only slightly crazier than my stance that he's Tonks and Charlie's.)

on 2007-08-08 10:01 am (UTC)
fera_festiva: Mavis Cruet from Willo The Wisp cartoon with caption "splendid" (Bruce lee hufflepuff)
Posted by [personal profile] fera_festiva
REMUS LUPIN (which was bad already) NAMING HIS SON LIKE A TEDDY BEAR.

And not just any teddy bear, but a novelty talking teddy bear from the 1980s!

Yeah, seriously, I burst out laughing when I read that name. Remus, what were you thinking?

Neville, however, is a total badass and I love him.

on 2007-08-08 10:27 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] jadis31.livejournal.com
I saw an icon the other day that was Brilliant. "George had twins. He named them both Fred" Yeah, I squealed with laughter.

on 2007-08-08 10:40 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] jadis31.livejournal.com
(Hey, it's only slightly crazier than my stance that he's Tonks and Charlie's.)

There's nothing crazy about that. Nothing at all! As soon as I read she was pregnant, my first thought was, must be Bill's. That's why Remus married her.

on 2007-08-08 11:56 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] georgierae.livejournal.com
erm, WORD.

tho i found myself almost wishing Harry had died (properly) after reading the Epilogue- my actual response was a rather loud 'WTF?!' (dad thinks i'm totally mental now!)

I was just happy to let the rest of the book wash over me once Remus died in the suckiest death since Sirius...


but GO NEVILLE! hehe

on 2007-08-08 06:03 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] penhaligonblue.livejournal.com
Doesn't Tonks just seem like she belongs in the Weasley family? Actually, I've been shipping her with Charlie longer than I have Remus with Sirius - it's just that there's no fandom to support the former.

on 2007-08-08 09:23 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] werewolf-lib.livejournal.com
Tonks/Charlie FTW!

In my head, I have a fic where Teddy is in fact Charlie's (after a long night of pre-wedding-festivity-related drinking) and Tonks doesn't want to tell him because he has a fiancee back in Romania so she marries Lupin. She considers admitting the truth when she sees how upset he becomes but then decides not to just to spite him after realising he's still in love with her late cousin, not with her.

I started trying to figure out how one supports the theory that Teddy is actually Remus and Sirius's love child.

And if you do, I want to hear it!

on 2007-08-08 09:25 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] werewolf-lib.livejournal.com
And not just any teddy bear, but a novelty talking teddy bear from the 1980s!

You forgot the 'scary' before the 'novelty'.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks that every time!

on 2007-08-09 01:19 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] reconditarmonia.livejournal.com
Mi mancava tanto Draco...anche Snape! Mi sembrava (leggendo HP6) che lui sarebbe molto più importante.

E povero Neville, la sua vendetta rubata!!

(Harry non può morire, il libro è troppo "mainstream"- Rowling non poteva uccidere il protagonista. :D)

on 2007-08-09 05:40 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] penhaligonblue.livejournal.com
Oh, please notify me if it gets written! I recall Jo saying somewhere, when asked about Tonks' age, saying something like, 'She's the same age as Charlie' - which is pretty much begging the shippers to go after them.

Do you happen to know any good fics for the pairing? I've hardly been able to find anything for them.

on 2007-08-09 06:07 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] penhaligonblue.livejournal.com
Oh, and doesn't it strike you as just a bit suspicious that, according to Remus, Teddy takes after Tonks entirely, but she anxiously insists he resembles Remus a bit, too?

on 2007-08-09 06:20 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] werewolf-lib.livejournal.com
Oh, just a touch!

I wish I knew of some good Tonks/Charlie. I'm writing the pairing into a Lupin/Snape fic of mine right now but it hardly has a starring role. I don't think I'm well adjusted enough to write Charlie!

on 2007-08-09 06:21 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] werewolf-lib.livejournal.com
And damn, that's a gorgeous icon you have.

on 2007-08-09 11:33 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] penhaligonblue.livejournal.com
Hee - thanks. It's from 'The Countess Brownlow' by Lord Frederick Leighton. The full painting's much more impressive. I'm such a costume nerd - nearly all my icons are either Preraphaelite paintings or period films.

on 2007-08-10 02:50 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] werewolf-lib.livejournal.com
I make jewellery and fiber items and my sister is a costume designer, so I know the art obsession! When we went to the Metropolitan Museum of Art last November, I spent most of the time photographing details of clothing and adornments in the paintings(which you can do without a flash).
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